Conference gyro::internet_toolss

Should ra-proxy.ecom.dec.com work with realplayer 4.0 beta?
I'm asking because it doesn't work for me.  It gets the
title/author/copyright info, but then gets "server timeout,
server not responding."  Statistics window shows 0 bytes received;
also it appears to have only tried UDP, and not kicked over to TCP.

Answering my own question, you need to configure it to use TCP only.

Does anyone know a way to download and/or save a ram file? I'd like play some 
of the audio i hear without network bandwidth interuption so i'd like to save
a copy locally. 

/james

    Sure, shift-click on a ram-file link, and it'll save it to
    disk.

G'Day,

	I got some mail from the company this morning that was talking about
RealVideo.  I copied the kit and installed it but didn't really think it would
work through the firewall.  To my surprise it did as it is using the same ports
as RealAudio.

	The player is only a beta at the moment but it works well.

David.

Shoft-click only saves the 1k ram file which appears to be a pointer
to the music store file. 

/james

>>> Does anyone know a way to download and/or save a ram file?

>> Sure, shift-click on a ram-file link, and it'll save it to disk.

> Shift-click only saves the 1k ram file which appears to be a pointer
> to the music store file. 

	That is what was asked for.  What was probably intended
	was a way of downloading the audio content ('.ra' file?)
	for playing off-line.  You might be able to look at the
	contents of a '.ram' file to determine the name of the
	file that contains the audio data (assuming it is in
	a file and not being generated in real-time).  Aside from
	that I don't know of any way to bypass the RealAudio 
	streaming protocol and getting at the original audio content 
	at faster than real-time speed.

	I don't know of any utility to store the audio data as it
	arrives and saving it in a format that can be played later.
	Even if such a program existed, the audio quality might
	be no better than listening in real-time since the data is
	just as likely to be lost whether you are listening or 
	saving.  Using the TCP connection type (typically used
	through a firewall) might produce better results for
	download.

	Sounds like what is wanted here is a program to tell the 
	Real-Audio server to start sending across a TCP connection
	and which will save the arriving data in a format that can
	be played later.  It can probably be done

    
    	Can the audio recorder utility be set up to process a .RAM file?
    

    No, you can't use the Sound Recorder application to record the output of
    the player.
    
    If the Real server allows the audio and/or video to be copied, the
    "record" button in the Real player will work.  If it doesn't work, it's
    by design... it's streaming "copy protected".
    
    --Ron

    Shawn, Cool Edit 96 allows you to save audio files as .ra (all the
    different variations).  To stream them, you still need the realaudio
    server software.  
    
    steve

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> Answering my own question, you need to configure it to use TCP only.


That was incorrect.  What I needed to do to get things working were:

transport: use "automatically select the most efficient transport"
proxy:	ra-proxy.ecom.dec.com on port 1090
	my site http proxy on its port
	No proxy for: .dec.com
                      ^^^^^^^^ note the syntax.  previously I had
				tried "*.dec.com", that was what prevented
				RA from working!

    
    	*.dec.com is for MS IE ... dec.com or .dec.com will work for Net-
    	scape.