Conference gyro::internet_toolss

	Yes... I do it all the time.

	You want to set up your home system to use the corporate WINS
	servers. That way, you'll be able to brown NT domains.

	Exchange client should be able to access your Exchange server
	via TCP/IP without a problem.


							mike

>>>>> "schwabe" == schwabe  <schwabe@usctr1.enet.dec.com> writes:

schwabe>   Is it possible to access a DEC internal NT domain and Exchange mail
schwabe>      via PPP connections?           

Yes, just dial in over a RAS connection (from Windows 95 or NT).

What I'm looking for is to dial in using PPP from a UNIX station to a
RAS server. Reading between the lines in the Microsoft web pages this
also seems possible. However I can't find any hard statements. Of
course I wouldn't have Exchange and  NT Domain shares available on
UNIX.

Cheers.
-- 
Han Pilmeyer @UTO, email: han@uto.dec.com, DTN: 838-2671, FAX: 838-2686
Digital Equipment B.V., Europalaan 44, 3526 KS Utrecht, The Netherlands
        Answers are the easy part, questions raise the doubt   -JB
[posted by Notes-News gateway]

    Yes, Windows NT RAS *is* PPP and can support non-PC hosts as long
    as the clients can use PAP/CHAP and the server only uses local
    authentication.  (Unless things have changed.)
    
    However, corporate RAS servers are configured to support the
    Microsoft/PC-centric infrastructure.  RAS authentication is done
    through the standard DIGITALx authentication domain, which requires
    a PC operating system such as Windows 95 or Windows NT.
    
    --Ron

More precisely, Microsoft's RAS servers do not implement the 
IETF-recommended CHAP protocol (the encrypted authentication method 
for PPP), they instead implement their own variant of CHAP which is 
incompatible with anybody else's CHAP. They did this because of the 
way passwords are encrypted on an NT server.

Supposedly this is starting to change. Below is an extract of the 
readme.txt of Service Pack 2 for NT 4.0. This is not yet enough for 
the CCS infrastructure but note they say "Integrated support will 
appear in a later release" which may mean anything of course ;-)

	Vincent
------------------------------------

3.4 Remote Access Service PPP CHAP MD5 authenticator support

SP2 provides limited PPP MD5-CHAP authenticator support to the Remote 
Access 
Server that may be useful for small user-count environments using 
non-Microsoft PPP dial-in clients. The support is local to a given 
RAS 
server.  The MD5 account information is stored in the RAS server's 
registry and is not integrated or synchronized with the User Manager 
account database.  Integrated support will appear in a later release, 
at which time this limited support may be deprecated.

               
    Let me clarify .0. I am aware of and use the corporate RAS
    numbers to access Exchange and Digital1 NT domain. There are 
    also a number of PPP modem pools around the USA. It is these
    PPP numbers that I'm interested in knowing if it is possible
    to connect to the same Digital1 NT domain and Exchange accounts.
    
    More specifically a user at my site will be going to Arizona
    and wants to know if she can use the PPP modem pool in Phoenix
    to access her Exchange mail and Digital1 domain.
    
    I'm getting conflicting information from various individuals
    concerning this.

    re: .-1
    
    As noted earlier, yes, you can log into an NT domain via a non-RAS PPP
    server. As long as you are connected in any way to the internal Digital
    IP network, you can access any internal Digital domain (barring any
    special security configurations). Also as noted, browsing depends on
    your having pointed to the right WINS server.
    
    Your new question is whether your colleague can dial into a modem pool
    in Arizona. Yes, that is also possible, but your colleague will, of
    course, need the number and password for that modem pool and may need a
    different dial-in script depending on how different that dial-in server
    is from any other he or she uses. It also presumes that the modem is
    compatible with the U.S. telephone system with regard to frequencies,
    timings, etc.
    
    -Tom

    
      Would the PC need a static IP address or is DHCP supported via
    non RAS PPP numbers?

    The PPP dialup port supplies the ip address.  However, you'll need to
    enter the name server(s) (WINS and DNS) manually.
    For PHX
    WINS 16.66.0.10 16.124.16.127
    DNS 16.62.112.18 16.82.0.10
    
    Got these from http://www-ccs.wro.dec.com/NT/NetworkServices.html

I hate to start another thread but this is somewhat related. 

I have access to RAS and PPP at my site (SCH) and all the Internet stuff seems
to work fine EXCEPT for exchange. It can't log into an Internet Mail Server.
When I got my account I was told to log into the DIGITAL1 domain with the
username LarsonK and the particular password. I was told to set my PC to be in
workgroup DIGITALWSSCH1 and give it the name LarsonK1. That all works andd I
can see my PC in the Network neighborhood. The web browser works, Telnet
works, FTP works, exchange can't log in. 

I suspect it is the setting in the internet mail server setting in the
Exchange options setup. I have tried DIGITAL1, DIGITALWSSCH1 and mail.dec.com.
None of these work and I can find no CCS web page to point to a proper
internet mail service.

What am I missing? I logged this to CCS for help. If I get that first, I'll
post an answer.

BTW, is there a MS Exchange notes group, I couldn't find one. It sounds like
we'll need one soon due to the corporate committment to MS Exchange.

Thanx in advance
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]

    Uh, don't use "Internet Mail"... use "Microsoft Exchange Server".  The
    "Internet Mail" in your Exchange (or Outlook) Client is a simple POP3 mail
    fetcher that has nothing to do with the corporate Exchange Servers.
    
    Did you follow the instructions you received with your account?  Did you
    look at http://www-ccs.wro.dec.com/nt/ in the Exchange section?
    
    --Ron
    

    yep .10 is right on.  The corporate Exchange infrastructure is not set
    up for the Exchange servers to be POP3 (Internet Mail Servers). It is
    set up for Microsoft Exchange Server only.  
    
    Either you knew this already and you have set up your own private 
    POP3 server on the network that you are trying to connect to or you 
    are under the mis-apprehension that the CCS run service will give you
    POP3 services.   
    
    Also, there is no direct link between DIGITALn domain accounts and
    Exchange accounts.  I just took a quick look in the Exchange GAL and I
    can tell you that there is no entry for "Ken Larson" so although all
    your NT logon stuff and RAS dial-in will work fine, you need to apply
    for an Exchange account in addition to your DIGITAL1 domain account.
    
    Exchange gurus in Digital tend to hang out in CHEFS::MS-EXCHANGE
    
    /Chris/

re:.10
Yup, that's it.
When  I received the laptop with Exchange v. 3 installed, I 'assumed' that 
the components were all installed. There was no exchange mail service
installed...just Internet mail. I see that they are different.I reinstalled
version 4
re.11
I did apply for an Exchange Mail account, but I guess if I am  not on the
list, 
I just take it up with CCS again

Thanx all.
[Posted by WWW Notes gateway]