Conference gyro::internet_toolss

    Jeff,
    
    I can connect to the ftp site ok, but the file names are hidden. What
    file do I down load. Also does this still expire on june 1st.?
    Primarilly I am interested in the Alpha client.
    
    Jay Walter
    CSC Storage Team

Sorry, should have updated this note.  The beta is over and we have shipped
the kits to manufacturing.  They'll be on the shelves May 19.  Tunnel 97
expiring kits (September 1, 1997) are available from our web site at

http://altavista.software.digital.com 

by pushing the "Tunnel Center" button followed by the "Download" button.

Currently, that takes you to 

http://204.123.2.99/cgi-bin/download.cgi/?product=tunnel

Feedback, as always, is welcome and encouraged.

j.

Do you think you could make the characters in your graphics smaller?
If I take my glasses off and move my face to within 3 inches of the screen
and squint, I can still make out the letters, so your web page designers
haven't yet managed to make attractive but useless pages _yet_.

That's pretty friggin' funny at 1:15 in the morning.

8^)

OK, I guess I asked for that.  Feedback on THE ALTAVISTA TUNNEL PRODUCT
is welcome and encouraged.  Feedback on the web site can be sent to whoever
cares about that, hopefully someone near the other end of where the
"feedback" button takes you.

j.

    The download gets an error and there is no feedback button to tell
    anyone who cares....
    
    cheers,
    Mike

>    The download gets an error and there is no feedback button to tell
>    anyone who cares....

	Maybe nobody cares?

		Danny

Thanks for the slam, Danny, but we do care.  But it would be useful to at
least post the error message so we'd know which direction to turn.  It
works fine for me.

Jeff

    Actually there are fonts which would be more readable at that text
    size. Studies have shown that using lowercase characters enhances 
    readability. But I didn't find it irritatingly hard to read. And I love 
    those Phillips head screws off to the left of the headings!
    
       erik

    re the download failing
    
    Error is
    SERVER ERROR
    The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was
    unable to complete your request.
    
    Please contact the server administrator, [no address given] and inform
    them of the time the error occurred, and anything you might have done
    that may have caused the error.
    
    I tried it just now with internet explorer 2.0
    I tried it before with netscape 3.x
    
    I am connecting using userid mikedran0 via the ccs proxy server
    www-proxy.sno.dec.com:8080 which goes via a local ISP connection to
    Telstra Internet (in australia) and across wherever to the altavista
    site.
    
    cheers,
    Mike

>    readability. But I didn't find it irritatingly hard to read. And I love 
>    those Phillips head screws off to the left of the headings!

If you trade monitors with me, I bet I'll stop complaining.

    Now since it is after June 1, has Tunnel 97 gone to SSB. 
    Can cost centers now order it?
    

Tunnel 97 should be on the shelves.  We're using a third party for
manufacturing (Logistix) rather than the SSB, but you'd want to order
it from IEG, who should have it.  If you find differently, let me
know and I'll push from this end.

Jeff

    Hmmm... I just placed an order via the imc web-page for the
    personal tunnel software. Anyone know which version I'll get?
    
    
    Dave

    My supervisor just checked, here is his reponse(6/4/97):
    Tunnel97 cannot be ordered yet.  It'll be in the SSB in about a week.
    I spoke to the product manager and couldn't get a part number.
    
    The software we need to order is Tunnel V2.0 (equivalent to Tunnel 97).
    Looks like I'll need to revert back to 1.0 for this wekend.

Dave,
Please post what you actually receive.  

I was told that SSB had started shipping Tunnel97 as of 
May 28 (when it ran out of Tunnel 1.1 kits).  I was also 
told that the order numbers would not change (but didn't 
think about a possible name in the version) - while attempting 
to see if we need to update the CCS Tunnel service order page.
This was by someone in the AltaVista group

    I called SSB and the person I spoke with indicated the new kits 
    would be shipping 'soon'. To be on the safe side, I asked them to 
    discard my order (they'd just printed it from the mail  account). 
    I'll re-submit the order later (I'm not in any hurry).
    
    Dave

Jeff, since you follow this note...

	The beta kit will not install properly on OSR2. Although OSR2 already
	contains the ISDN V1.1 kit, the tunnel installation claims that
	"ISDN patch 1.1 is required for this product". Since I cannot find
	an ISDN patch on the Microsoft site (only the kit), I must assume
	that the beta installation is simply not detecting that the ISDN kit
	is in fact installed.

	This problem has been brought up in the AltaVista Tunnel support forum
	(entry #285), but the AltaVista support people don't seem to know
	what OSR2 is and that ISDN V1.1 is part of it. 

	Do I really have to (re)load the ISDN kit?

Thanks,

Larry

 I took a look at the osr2 files, they appear to be August 24, 1996 and
 older.  But when I tried to expand the isdn kit, it would not expand and
 I was not willing to install it on top of my osr2 w/o knowing the files
 and their ages!

 Bruce